Blue Fox
Apr 22, 09:38 PM
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It's WiMax.. iPhone is going to be LTE. Apple is obsessed with thin design. Using two separate chip for 3G and 4G will make things too tight. I'm guessing they want the hybrid chip..
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
It's WiMax.. iPhone is going to be LTE. Apple is obsessed with thin design. Using two separate chip for 3G and 4G will make things too tight. I'm guessing they want the hybrid chip..
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
Ridley
Apr 17, 08:42 PM
According to CNET, the new Air will be released around June with a Sandy Bridge ULV Core i5 2537M chip 1.4 GHz that can turbo to 2.3 GHz.
So for .17 GHz upgrade we are sacrificing around 30% graphic power?
Are you talking about this article (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031434-64.html?tag=posts;msg5118115) from back in February that has been discussed ad infinitum on here?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1126201&highlight=
Are you referring to a newer cnet story? Do you have a link? Thanks, I am personally holding off and really hoping its true... we'll see!
Also clock rate is not the only factor for determining chip speed... in fact it is a very small factor. The new processor is not just .17 hz faster, its a whole new architecture. Its why the 2.0 Ghz i7 in the 2011 MBPs are faster than the a 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 Prescott from 2004.
So for .17 GHz upgrade we are sacrificing around 30% graphic power?
Are you talking about this article (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031434-64.html?tag=posts;msg5118115) from back in February that has been discussed ad infinitum on here?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1126201&highlight=
Are you referring to a newer cnet story? Do you have a link? Thanks, I am personally holding off and really hoping its true... we'll see!
Also clock rate is not the only factor for determining chip speed... in fact it is a very small factor. The new processor is not just .17 hz faster, its a whole new architecture. Its why the 2.0 Ghz i7 in the 2011 MBPs are faster than the a 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 Prescott from 2004.
bommai
Jul 21, 12:05 PM
I work for GE and we are all Dell (unfortunately). Dell laptops, desktops, servers. Everybody gets Dell and nothing else. Can you imagine a company wide policy (300k workers). While the stuff breaks pretty quickly (my latitude laptop had cracks on it within 2 months of use), I was told that the enterprise service plans that Dell offers are unbeatable. The will swap stuff overnight and make sure you have something to work with. If Apple were to have a good service plan for enterprise, I think they will get more takers. Until then, Apple will be more popular with consumers and not enterprise.
Don't confuse Dell consumer service plans with enterprise. Enterprise is their bread and butter.
Don't confuse Dell consumer service plans with enterprise. Enterprise is their bread and butter.
BRLawyer
Dec 2, 05:48 AM
I agree with the few others that are concerned about this.
Our Mac OS innocence is coming to an end. Part of this is due to the growing market share, and popularity in the Operating system. The other issue I feel that is of concern, is the new challenge this OS provides for Script kiddies, and bored coders. If you have an ego, and want to get your name out, why not do what hasn't been done before, as opposed to doing what everyone else does ?
This is going to be a growing trend, and the amount of Mac Haters in the wild is quite high! Once code tricks and secrets start to get out, it is only a matter of time before OS X is targeted by thousands, much like XP!
Apple has time to take this very seriously, and work to keep this system tight and secure! Hopefully this is going to be a big part of the focus on Leopard, but only developers will really know this!
These current headlines aside
1. Pay attention to what warning messages pop up when browsing the web.
2. Only download and install software from sources that you trust, and if you do trust them, take an extra moment to think about why you trust them, and if you really need to install that piece of 3rd party software!
3. Keep your firewalls on if possible
4. Don't permanently unlock preferences, folders, or other security areas on your system using your keychain, unless you really need to do so!
There are others, however that is a good baseline to follow for some minimal security checks and balances!
And here we go again with the "security through obscurity" myth...please, don't spread such things again, because they are not true.
The mere fact that some kernel vulnerabilities were discovered in an event SPECIFICALLY devoted to finding such things does not mean our OS X is unsafe. It is by far the MOST secure system out there, with 40 million or 400 million users, and nobody has been able to prove the opposite so far.
Besides, some (or many) of the arguments posed by this "anonymous" LMH were already debunked by other security analysts. Just an example:
"Apple DMG flaw not so serious? SecurityFocus reports on the controversy surrounding a disk image denial of service potentiality in Mac OS X. "While the common wisdom in the security world is that crashes are exploitable, Mac programmer Alastair Houghton published his kernel-code analysis showing that this particular vulnerability is not. "In fact, all (the MoKB) has found here is a bug that causes a kernel panic," Houghton wrote in his analysis. "Not a security flaw. Not a memory corruption bug. Just a completely orderly kernel panic." Following the analysis, Secunia downgraded their severity rating of the vulnerability from "highly critical" to "not critical." Several other companies still have the vulnerability rated as critical. The actions follow a heated exchange between Houghton and the founder of the Month of Kernel Bugs (MoKB) Project, a person who identifies himself as only L.M.H. Because of the exchange, Houghton decided to spend three days analyzing the issue and had his final analysis checked by Thomas Ptacek, a security researcher and founder of Matasano Security."
http://www.macfixit.com/
So please...before spreading more FUD in this forum, check the facts and take some time before believing some strange guys pretending to be specialists...
Our Mac OS innocence is coming to an end. Part of this is due to the growing market share, and popularity in the Operating system. The other issue I feel that is of concern, is the new challenge this OS provides for Script kiddies, and bored coders. If you have an ego, and want to get your name out, why not do what hasn't been done before, as opposed to doing what everyone else does ?
This is going to be a growing trend, and the amount of Mac Haters in the wild is quite high! Once code tricks and secrets start to get out, it is only a matter of time before OS X is targeted by thousands, much like XP!
Apple has time to take this very seriously, and work to keep this system tight and secure! Hopefully this is going to be a big part of the focus on Leopard, but only developers will really know this!
These current headlines aside
1. Pay attention to what warning messages pop up when browsing the web.
2. Only download and install software from sources that you trust, and if you do trust them, take an extra moment to think about why you trust them, and if you really need to install that piece of 3rd party software!
3. Keep your firewalls on if possible
4. Don't permanently unlock preferences, folders, or other security areas on your system using your keychain, unless you really need to do so!
There are others, however that is a good baseline to follow for some minimal security checks and balances!
And here we go again with the "security through obscurity" myth...please, don't spread such things again, because they are not true.
The mere fact that some kernel vulnerabilities were discovered in an event SPECIFICALLY devoted to finding such things does not mean our OS X is unsafe. It is by far the MOST secure system out there, with 40 million or 400 million users, and nobody has been able to prove the opposite so far.
Besides, some (or many) of the arguments posed by this "anonymous" LMH were already debunked by other security analysts. Just an example:
"Apple DMG flaw not so serious? SecurityFocus reports on the controversy surrounding a disk image denial of service potentiality in Mac OS X. "While the common wisdom in the security world is that crashes are exploitable, Mac programmer Alastair Houghton published his kernel-code analysis showing that this particular vulnerability is not. "In fact, all (the MoKB) has found here is a bug that causes a kernel panic," Houghton wrote in his analysis. "Not a security flaw. Not a memory corruption bug. Just a completely orderly kernel panic." Following the analysis, Secunia downgraded their severity rating of the vulnerability from "highly critical" to "not critical." Several other companies still have the vulnerability rated as critical. The actions follow a heated exchange between Houghton and the founder of the Month of Kernel Bugs (MoKB) Project, a person who identifies himself as only L.M.H. Because of the exchange, Houghton decided to spend three days analyzing the issue and had his final analysis checked by Thomas Ptacek, a security researcher and founder of Matasano Security."
http://www.macfixit.com/
So please...before spreading more FUD in this forum, check the facts and take some time before believing some strange guys pretending to be specialists...
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mac1984user
Apr 13, 08:16 PM
Well, with a sample size of 2, my wife bought a white iP3G and I bought a black one...
This made me chuckle. Thanks for that! =)
This made me chuckle. Thanks for that! =)
Intell
Apr 26, 04:26 PM
chrmjenkis awoke with a start. A foul stench filled his nose. He looked around at something that was akin to garbage compactor 3263827. Sadly it was lacking Lois dressed as a princess. "What is that smell?" he asked appleguy312. Appleguy213 was walking around flipped switches and spinning a wheel. "What you smell is the fetid remains of the wolves past destructions. Quickly, grab your towel."
"Blah Blah Blah Blah!!!" announced a local PA system speaker. "What did they say?" asked a confused chrmjenkins.
"Come here." said appleguy123 as he grabbed chrmjenkins head and proceeded to cram a German speaking fish into his ear. Instantly the "blahs" became words. "There are intruders in the wash room!" the voice said. At which point a bunch of wolves ran in a took appleguy321 and chrmjenkins to the bridge.
"Welcome, I'm captain Bicardi and I'm going to play you some flute music." He then proceeded to play Queen. appleguy132, having no desire to hear such a multination of good music, broke free of the double sided sticky tape holding him down and tackled the Number 2 Worf. Plutonius, the only human on the bridge, stepped forward to detain appleguy231. But instead he got a swift punt to the head and stopped living.
chrmjenkins and appleguy321 both where gassed and removed from the bridge.
Plutonius was just a villager. Specials send me your PMs. You have 24 hours. If I get all PMs before 24 hours, the night will be cut short.
"Blah Blah Blah Blah!!!" announced a local PA system speaker. "What did they say?" asked a confused chrmjenkins.
"Come here." said appleguy123 as he grabbed chrmjenkins head and proceeded to cram a German speaking fish into his ear. Instantly the "blahs" became words. "There are intruders in the wash room!" the voice said. At which point a bunch of wolves ran in a took appleguy321 and chrmjenkins to the bridge.
"Welcome, I'm captain Bicardi and I'm going to play you some flute music." He then proceeded to play Queen. appleguy132, having no desire to hear such a multination of good music, broke free of the double sided sticky tape holding him down and tackled the Number 2 Worf. Plutonius, the only human on the bridge, stepped forward to detain appleguy231. But instead he got a swift punt to the head and stopped living.
chrmjenkins and appleguy321 both where gassed and removed from the bridge.
Plutonius was just a villager. Specials send me your PMs. You have 24 hours. If I get all PMs before 24 hours, the night will be cut short.
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Kardashian
Jul 25, 08:25 AM
Not sure if this has been posted, but do you think it will come in Black, for the MB users? (and possible iMac users)
vvebster
Nov 29, 01:08 AM
I'd like to get Kinect and Kinect Sports (game)....well for me and my sisters. I don't why people are hating on it, but it's actually fun to play...well kinect sports was fun. And it's a good workout.
**And kinda tired of playing Gears Of War 2, since COD games sucks now :( I just finished Fable 3, all i gotta say is....AMAZING GAME!
**And kinda tired of playing Gears Of War 2, since COD games sucks now :( I just finished Fable 3, all i gotta say is....AMAZING GAME!
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Apr 27, 06:18 PM
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macrumormonger
Apr 11, 01:33 AM
This photo made me thirsty for some Sprite. That is a cool tree right there. Liking the colors on it alot. Could care less about the fountain. : )
The fountain made you think of clear water. Clear water + lime = Sprite.
Interesting choice of focal point and depth of field. It makes me wonder what what it might look like with everything in focus.
I took half a dozen pics of the same scene, it never occurred to me to actually take one with a smaller aperture.:D
And speaking of badly focused shots. This one I thought I took f/8, but EXIF says f/7.1 making the foreground daisies OOF. Still kept it because I'm a secret admirer of bright super-contrasty sharp everything colorful landscape pics.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5227/5602404398_9c1677930e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailymatador/5602404398/)
Camera Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/400)
Aperture f/7.1
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100
The fountain made you think of clear water. Clear water + lime = Sprite.
Interesting choice of focal point and depth of field. It makes me wonder what what it might look like with everything in focus.
I took half a dozen pics of the same scene, it never occurred to me to actually take one with a smaller aperture.:D
And speaking of badly focused shots. This one I thought I took f/8, but EXIF says f/7.1 making the foreground daisies OOF. Still kept it because I'm a secret admirer of bright super-contrasty sharp everything colorful landscape pics.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5227/5602404398_9c1677930e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailymatador/5602404398/)
Camera Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Exposure 0.003 sec (1/400)
Aperture f/7.1
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100
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blow45
Apr 28, 04:35 PM
1mm thicker, but the 30 or so people voting negatively are waaaaayyy thicker, and that rating system on the front page is colossally thick... and it's not enough that pretty much everyone hates that rating system, now we even have a rating system for posts... talk about anal retentiveness... :mad::apple:
rnelan7
Sep 13, 09:46 PM
I have this shirt. It does attract quite a bit of attention
Where can you purchase it?
Where can you purchase it?
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FX4568
Apr 20, 04:22 PM
Ah, that clears things up a bit.
But as stated, I'd like to see the power draw for the C2D+320M. Certainly then, in taking out the other power-suckers in the machine, that C2D+320M combo would draw more power than the LV i5 processor alone, would it not?
Its a difference of 5-10W. Dont remember exactly. might be a little less since its not a full clocked C2D.
But as stated, I'd like to see the power draw for the C2D+320M. Certainly then, in taking out the other power-suckers in the machine, that C2D+320M combo would draw more power than the LV i5 processor alone, would it not?
Its a difference of 5-10W. Dont remember exactly. might be a little less since its not a full clocked C2D.
Mobius 1
May 3, 09:06 AM
how do i reclaim the normal clocked speed of the CPU and GPU?
u know apple underclock and things like that
u know apple underclock and things like that
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timerollson
Sep 13, 12:53 PM
6-pack of this:
http://www.tsbarchicago.com/images/bluemoon_harvestmoon-1.jpg
Not as good as Samuel Adams' Octoberfest. Tastes like root beer. Yuck (sort of) lol.
http://www.tsbarchicago.com/images/bluemoon_harvestmoon-1.jpg
Not as good as Samuel Adams' Octoberfest. Tastes like root beer. Yuck (sort of) lol.
MBHockey
Nov 3, 01:03 PM
In Fusion, can you have more than the measly 8MB of vram that Parallels gives you to work with in Windows?
CAD programs barely run with 8MB of vram.
CAD programs barely run with 8MB of vram.
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TIGOS
Nov 1, 11:48 AM
Man, buy an Seagate Theater+, i have this one. Better than WD and much less.
I paid 70$ at newegg.com
I paid 70$ at newegg.com
zync
Aug 1, 11:07 AM
No problem
Well, I actually didn't have a problem with any version of XP, even before I had installed XP2. The first releases of OSX were pretty hellish for me. Panther was fine; then I installed Tiger and I was back in beta land, which is when I decided to move the business-related stuff back to XP and just do the fun stuff on OSX. Fortunately Apple released a fix a few weeks after they released Tiger.
Well, I don't think they've really done that much. They've mashed a few extra look and feels into the UI, added dashboard (and I'm not even sure they invented that), Automator (wich I really should try out). Apart from that, the OS is pretty much the same as it was when it was released (though a lot more stable obviously).
It's an excellent piece of work, but it certainly should be cheaper because when you get right down to it, they didn't actually have to write it from scratch.
Er ... OSX does have one, but it appear to be black (http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/ask-apple-matters-os-x-crashes-afterall/) ....
I agree that it should be cheaper. Tiger introduced a lot. And Panther introduced Expos�. I think Panther was hit or miss for those first few weeks. Some people had major problems, I didn't.
OS X "Kernel Panics" are transparent :)
For the record, I've had errors on both ends. XP ones have been a lot more annoying�for me at least.
Well, I actually didn't have a problem with any version of XP, even before I had installed XP2. The first releases of OSX were pretty hellish for me. Panther was fine; then I installed Tiger and I was back in beta land, which is when I decided to move the business-related stuff back to XP and just do the fun stuff on OSX. Fortunately Apple released a fix a few weeks after they released Tiger.
Well, I don't think they've really done that much. They've mashed a few extra look and feels into the UI, added dashboard (and I'm not even sure they invented that), Automator (wich I really should try out). Apart from that, the OS is pretty much the same as it was when it was released (though a lot more stable obviously).
It's an excellent piece of work, but it certainly should be cheaper because when you get right down to it, they didn't actually have to write it from scratch.
Er ... OSX does have one, but it appear to be black (http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/ask-apple-matters-os-x-crashes-afterall/) ....
I agree that it should be cheaper. Tiger introduced a lot. And Panther introduced Expos�. I think Panther was hit or miss for those first few weeks. Some people had major problems, I didn't.
OS X "Kernel Panics" are transparent :)
For the record, I've had errors on both ends. XP ones have been a lot more annoying�for me at least.
mrsir2009
Apr 28, 06:01 PM
Jesus christ the world will end.
southernpaws
Apr 23, 11:30 AM
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The fact is, we've been through this before. The iPhone 1 was going to be a huge failure because it didn't have 3G. They were concerned about coverage and battery life. It's the same issue now.
People are saying apple should make those sacrifices now to keep up with technology. But nobody is addressing the fact that apple has historical evidence that this is a sound approach.
So many people just love to see every issue from the Apple perspective. There are people who get paid for that. Should not you - as a consumer - care more about the gadget you want than Apple success?
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
Apple does not have to use two chips. They could just design separate phone for Verizon (just like iPhone 4) which does not support GSM. Not ideal but that's where technology is today. At least Verizon customers could enjoy iPhone 5 with LTE.
Im a shareholder. Similar to many others here that you mindlessly dismiss
The fact is, we've been through this before. The iPhone 1 was going to be a huge failure because it didn't have 3G. They were concerned about coverage and battery life. It's the same issue now.
People are saying apple should make those sacrifices now to keep up with technology. But nobody is addressing the fact that apple has historical evidence that this is a sound approach.
So many people just love to see every issue from the Apple perspective. There are people who get paid for that. Should not you - as a consumer - care more about the gadget you want than Apple success?
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
Apple does not have to use two chips. They could just design separate phone for Verizon (just like iPhone 4) which does not support GSM. Not ideal but that's where technology is today. At least Verizon customers could enjoy iPhone 5 with LTE.
Im a shareholder. Similar to many others here that you mindlessly dismiss
pilotkid
Sep 12, 11:28 PM
And here my last purchase: Shaken green tea lemonade - I quit buying coffee from starbucks to reduce my sugar intake but I needed something to get from the coffee shop!
Hopefully you got it with no Classic(the default sugar syrup that goes it in). If you didn't it has six pumps...:D
Trust me, once you work at Starbucks and see all the crap that is in those drinks you start drinking water.
***This is what I get for not reading a few posts down!***
Hopefully you got it with no Classic(the default sugar syrup that goes it in). If you didn't it has six pumps...:D
Trust me, once you work at Starbucks and see all the crap that is in those drinks you start drinking water.
***This is what I get for not reading a few posts down!***
al256
Jun 6, 12:55 PM
I haven't seen those.To what were they referring?
This would be an example:
sure. apple has no problem giving a refund, as they keep their 30% that the developer now has to pay. that's a cool $300 that apple just ripped off from the developer all to protect their mistake and their idiot customers.
This would be an example:
sure. apple has no problem giving a refund, as they keep their 30% that the developer now has to pay. that's a cool $300 that apple just ripped off from the developer all to protect their mistake and their idiot customers.
Avalontor
Apr 28, 06:53 PM
<snip>
You want rip-off? Microsoft makes its billions charging hundreds for a 10-cent CD in a dollar's worth of packaging. So does Adobe. Where's your outrage?
<snip>
seriously? so does Apple, where's your outrage?
how much is OSX again? maybe it would just be easier if you listed all the Apple software that is priced around $1.10
You want rip-off? Microsoft makes its billions charging hundreds for a 10-cent CD in a dollar's worth of packaging. So does Adobe. Where's your outrage?
<snip>
seriously? so does Apple, where's your outrage?
how much is OSX again? maybe it would just be easier if you listed all the Apple software that is priced around $1.10
Zonz
Dec 31, 05:26 PM
...And you bring religion into it? Seriously? :rolleyes:
Anyway, to say that healthcare doesn't enter into the situation of someone that large is denial, plain and simple. You really shouldn't jump into such deep waters so ill-equipped, my friend. My original post and Knight's reply to yours already explain why this is a issue that affects more than just her.
It sure is. I've never said otherwise. She can eat until she bursts for all I care. But there is a pretty big chasm between being selfish, and not wanting to pay for someone else's self-inflicted stupidity. Though I guess she's backed out of the plan anyway, cleaning up the hot biological mess of someone purposely trying to be "the world's fattest person" should happen on her dime, not mine.
I think you missed the sarcasm in my God reference (God, not religion, but nonetheless IRONY MUCH?)... and no, I read every post and I understood them all, but my argument is not that she isn't a liability. It's that no one here has a right to decide where the line is between what lifestyle is so selfish that it is your personal concern.
I'm ill equipped, huh?
So I think you missed my point. I never said health care doesn't factor in, but my point was... every single person here is being hypocritical!
You can argue all you want, and would be correct to say that every decision, including the choice to be fat, effects everyone else and not just yourself, but to judge her decision so harshly like you are is almost disgraceful.
And just in case, I'll preemptive strike. No I am not arguing out of some personal defense to my own lifestyle. I am not fat, if anything I'm under weight. 5'11'' and 150 lbs.
Anyway, to say that healthcare doesn't enter into the situation of someone that large is denial, plain and simple. You really shouldn't jump into such deep waters so ill-equipped, my friend. My original post and Knight's reply to yours already explain why this is a issue that affects more than just her.
It sure is. I've never said otherwise. She can eat until she bursts for all I care. But there is a pretty big chasm between being selfish, and not wanting to pay for someone else's self-inflicted stupidity. Though I guess she's backed out of the plan anyway, cleaning up the hot biological mess of someone purposely trying to be "the world's fattest person" should happen on her dime, not mine.
I think you missed the sarcasm in my God reference (God, not religion, but nonetheless IRONY MUCH?)... and no, I read every post and I understood them all, but my argument is not that she isn't a liability. It's that no one here has a right to decide where the line is between what lifestyle is so selfish that it is your personal concern.
I'm ill equipped, huh?
So I think you missed my point. I never said health care doesn't factor in, but my point was... every single person here is being hypocritical!
You can argue all you want, and would be correct to say that every decision, including the choice to be fat, effects everyone else and not just yourself, but to judge her decision so harshly like you are is almost disgraceful.
And just in case, I'll preemptive strike. No I am not arguing out of some personal defense to my own lifestyle. I am not fat, if anything I'm under weight. 5'11'' and 150 lbs.
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